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The same-sex marriage debate and the right to religious belief

divorce lawyers ssmBy Paul Kelly
The Australian
11 July 2015

The central issue in any Australian recognition of same-sex marriage remains almost invisible — whether the state’s re-definition of civil marriage will authorise an assault on churches, institutions and individuals who retain their belief in the traditional view of marriage.

It seems to this point that none of the proposals for same-sex marriage or related policy prescriptions are satisfactory laws for passage by the Australian parliament. The real issue is conceptually simple — it is whether same-sex marriage will deny conscience rights to much of the population. The alternative is a new spirit of tolerance guaranteed by law where same-sex marriage sits in parallel with undiminished ­religious liberty.

The omens are not good. As the years advance there has been ­virtually no debate about the real issues surrounding same-sex ­marriage. The campaign for change is strong and tactically brilliant based on the ideological slogan “marriage equality”, one of the most effective slogans in many decades.

The collapse of the moral authority of the churches, especially the Catholic Church, driven above all by the child sexual abuse phenomenon across a range of nations, has seen a depleted and often unchristian response by the churches as they singularly fail to meet the demand of same-sex marriage advocates.

Yet the majority media reaction to this situation — “let’s get on with the change” — is ignorant and irresponsible. The real debate is probably just starting. It poses an unprecedented challenge for our law-makers. There has never been an issue like this, as the US ­Supreme Court decision made clear.

This week in The Australian and in an interview with Inquirer, Human Rights Commissioner Tim Wilson, a strong supporter of same-sex marriage, began to confront the choice our society faces.

Wilson advanced two propositions that shatter the haze of misinformation and emotion that surrounds this issue. First, that none of the bills on same-sex ­marriage offers anything like the essential protection of religious freedom and individual conscience. And second, that individual belief and religious freedom must be seen as “equally important” as the right to same-sex ­marriage.

These principles have not been accepted in the debate. Indeed, they are largely denied and fought. This is the reason Wilson has raised them. The politicians will protest but their protests are worthless. Only one thing counts — the policy and legislative stand the politicians take and, so far, the protections of religion freedom are only tokenism.

“The primary problem is that people think of religious protection just in terms of a minister of religion solemnising a marriage,” Wilson tells Inquirer. “But this is a superficial analysis of the issue. The question of religious freedom has not been taken seriously. It is treated as an afterthought. We cannot allow a situation where the law is telling people they have to act against their conscience and beliefs. We cannot protect the rights of one group of people by denying the rights of another group.”

If the Australian parliament intends to create a legal regime with this consequence then the law-makers must justify this to the ­people and explain how such ­calculated intolerance leads to a better society. The legalisation of same-sex marriage means the laws of the state and the laws of the church will be in conflict over the meaning of the most important institution in society. This conflict between the civil and religious meaning of marriage will probably be untenable and marked by litigation, attempts to use anti-discrimination law and entrenched bitterness. But an effort ought to be made to make it tenable on the basis of mutual tolerance.

The Amici brief to the US ­Supreme Court of four distinguished legal scholars* who support same-sex marriage offers the best statement we are likely to see on the method of reconciliation between these competing rights. “The proper response to the mostly avoidable conflict between gay rights and religious liberty is to protect the liberty of both sides,” the Amici brief argues. “Both sexual minorities and religious minorities make essentially parallel claims on the larger society.

“Both sexual orientation and religious faith, and the conduct that follows from each, are fundamental to human identity. Both same-sex couples and religious organisations and believers committed to traditional understandings of marriage, face hostile regulation that condemns their most cherished commitments as evil.

“Legislative bargaining is critical to protecting religious liberty in the growing number of states where religious objections to same-sex marriage have become unpopular.”

If same-sex marriage is authorised in Australia, this is the approach that should prevail. If Coalition MPs who support traditional marriage were prudent they would begin preparing the legal conditions under which freedom of conscience can exist with same-sex marriage. If pro-same-sex marriage MPs were prudent they would do the same, as Wilson advocates, and if they are serious and convince traditionalists then they may find more MPs joining their ranks.

There should be no doubt, however, about the bottom line: the Australian parliament should not legislate the right to same-sex marriage on the altar of denying institutions and individuals the right to their conscience.

The Amici brief begins with a core proposition: the issue of religious liberty cannot be used to deny same-sex marriage. But this leads to the next proposition: the legalisation of same-sex marriage cannot be used to deploy state power against religious organisation and believers. This spirit can prevail only if churches respect same-sex couples and if same-sex couples respect religious discretion. That requires the removal of hate and malice from the ­debate. The ­essence of the moral liberation required is put in these terms: “The gain for human liberty will be greatly undermined if same-sex couples now force religious dissenters to violate their conscience in the same way that those dissenters, when they had the power to do so, forced same-sex couples to hide in the closet.”

This raises the question about the real ideology of the same-sex marriage campaign. Is it merely to allow gays to marry? Or is its ultimate purpose to impose “marriage equality” across the entire society, civil and religious. Ideologies do not normally stop at the halfway mark. Is “marriage equality”, as designed and evolving by its advocates, an ideology that can live with two different concepts of marriage, civil and religious? The Amici brief makes clear that limiting religious exemptions to just pastors performing wedding ceremonies is completely inadequate. There is a wide range of other issues to be considered. Must religious colleges provide married housing to same-sex couples? Must churches and synagogues employ spouses in same-sex marriages even though this flouts their religious teaching? Must religious social-service agencies place children for adoption with same-sex couples?

Will religious institutions be penalised by losing government contracts, tax exemptions and access to public facilities? Will religious institutions and schools be penalised if they teach their own beliefs about marriage, thereby contradicting the state’s view of marriage? Or will the state laws via anti-discrimination legislation be mobilised to force the state’s view on to religious institutions?

What of the provision of ser­vices? In much of the US a gay publicist can refuse to provide services for an anti-gay event. That is acceptable under the law. Can a person decline to provide services for a gay marriage, not because the person discriminates against gays but because they see the marriage as a religious event and therefore it defies their religious beliefs? The Amici brief argues that it is essential to distinguish the two relationships — protecting the right of same-sex couples to civil marriage and protecting religious actors’ right to uphold their view of religious marriage.

The US Supreme Court decision in Obergefell v Hodges is flawed for two reasons. First, as Chief Justice John Roberts said in dissent: “The court is not a legislator. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea should be of no concern to us. Under the Constitution, judges have power to say what the law is, not what it should be.”

This decision is an arrogant denial of US democracy and law-making even though it follows a US tradition of law creation by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court pre-empted the process by which state legislature after state legislature was voting on same-sex marriage.

Justice Antonin Scalia said in dissent: “Until the courts put a stop to it, public debate over same-sex marriage displayed American democracy at its best.”

The second problem, as Australian lawyer and priest Frank Brennan argues, is that the upshot in the US will be “years of litigation” about the rights of religious bodies that is sure to be “nasty and hard fought”. The reason is because a court decision will now replace legislative decisions.

The consequence is writ large: where marriage equality is delivered by court decision, religious liberty is not protected. Where marriage equality in the US is delivered by the legislature there tends to be a political bargain, with religious liberty provisions of varying extents.

The applause in this country for the US Supreme Court decision, while understandable, is a disappointing and bad omen. It suggests the public grasp of this issue in Australia is far distant from the debate that is needed.

“I have accepted the inevitability that civil marriage in Australia will be redefined to include same-sex couples,” Brennan told Inquirer. But Brennan warned it was “another thing” to require “all persons, regardless of their religious beliefs, to treat same-sex couples even in the life and activities of the church as if they were married in the eyes of the church”.

He poses a series of questions. Will religious institutions in Australia be able to follow current policy on shared accommodation on a church site? Will religious schools be able to limit employment to teachers who follow church teaching on sexual relations? Will faith- based adoptive agencies be able to prefer placement with a traditional family unit?

Brennan said these and related issues “should now be squarely on the table”. In truth, this is long overdue. Brennan finished, however, on an ominous note: “Some of us support the state recognition of both same-sex marriage AND (his emphasis) religious freedom exercised in speech, actions and institutional arrangements. Sadly, many who advocate same-sex marriage have no time for those of us who espouse religious freedom as well.”

Brennan’s fears are well placed given the debate in Australia in recent times. The politicians are not serious about this issue and neither is the media. It is reduced to a footnote of minor import yet rolled out to justify their same-sex marriage policy.

As Wilson knows, this is not the way to proceed. It only guarantees institutional division and rancour. The core question remains: what is the real ideological objective of the same-sex marriage campaign?

* Brief of Douglas Laycock, Thomas C. Berg, David Blankenhorn, Marie A. Failinger and Edward McGlynn Gaffney.

Original article here

Public life after same-sex marriage: United Kingdom

BY KATHY GYNGELL   10 July 2015  Mercatornet

Video: Nothern Ireland bakery owners lose gay cake case

In the third and last article in this series Kathy Gyngell, co-editor of The Conservative Woman blog, finds a trend in favour of gay rights and against freedom of religious expression and conscience.

Once support for same-sex marriage was established in the opinion polls from 2012 onwards, courts in the UK have sanctioned case after case of intolerance of private beliefs and private behaviour. You could call it legally endorsed bullying.

From wedding cakes and bed and breakfast accommodation to pressure on Catholic adoption agencies and sex education in the classroom, public pressure and legal rulings have gone one way – in favour of gay rights and  against freedom of religious expression and conscience.

Before the legislation was enacted in March 2013, the Equalities and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) had ruled that marriage registrars were public officials and so should expect to be “required” to carry out the gay marriage ceremonies. No choice there then. It concluded that religious protection was “a qualified right” which “the State can interfere with” in some circumstances.

In another case following their refusal to rent a shared room to a gay couple, two bed and breakfast accommodation owners were taken to the UK Supreme Court and ordered to pay damages, wrecking their livelihood and future. Never mind it was their private home.

In a rare instance, a housing official (local authority employee) managed to win his case with legal support and advice from the Christian Institute.

He was still stripped of his managerial rank, had his salary almost halved and career ruined. His crime? To say on Facebook he thought same-sex weddings in churches were “an equality too far”. His employer, Trafford Housing Trust in Greater Manchester, claimed he had breached company policies that prohibited upsetting colleagues or promoting religious views and that he had potentially damaged the Trust’s reputation for “diversity”.

So it is simply disingenuous to argue, as some gay activists do, that the sky hasn’t fallen in as a result of gay marriage laws. Cracks opened up in the run up to it.

Since it was enacted, the legislation has  had more sinister manifestations both within and without the Church. Independently minded clergy have come increasingly under attack – even when espousing official church doctrine on the matter.  To get a full account of the hostility encountered by Hull vicar Melvin Tinker after he spoke out against York Minster’s blessing of the gay pride parade, read philosopher and theologian Paul Helm’s reflections.

Andrew Symes of Anglican Mainstream has also written on the furore, arguing that the real outrage was not the words or argument that Melvin Tinker used, but the fact that York Minster celebrated ‘gay pride’ in the way that it did.

These two brave men put their own careers on the line with their statements of belief.

More worrying still is officially sanctioned  indoctrination of the young.

Just last week the Secretary of State for Education, Nicky Morgan (a practising Anglican who voted against same-sex marriage when just an MP) told the BBC that children who express negative attitudes about homosexuality could be marked as potential extremists. Given that the Government is constantly adding to its anti-terrorism legislation, this is no mean threat. This needs to be understood in a context of official sex education where same-sex relationships are taught as being on a par with heterosexual ones.

Which brings me to the legislation’s final devastating impact – on the institution of marriage itself.

Have not homosexuals nobly demanded the right to participate in this tradition that nurtures the common good? Theo Hobson, the theologian, asked in The Spectatorrecently. No, he says:

“Gay marriage is an affirmation of gay rights, not of marriage. Though it speaks of marriage as a social good, its moral energy is all about individual rights (which run counter to the moral meaning of marriage). In the past few years I have not heard a gay marriage advocate saying anything thoughtful about marriage. They all say, in effect, ‘our love is as good and pure as yours and deserves the big teacher’s tick of marriage, how dare you say it doesn’t, how dare you?’

But now after the passing of the same-sex marriage Act in Britain, anyone who dares refuse the teacher’s tick or refuses to fly the rainbow flag or otherwise pretend that the emperor is not naked is a marked man. That’s how it feels to be in Britain today. So much for equality under the law.

A longer version of this article can be found at The Conservative Woman.

Original article here

Gay marriage leaves Catholic schools under threat

Since when has teaching your children what you, and most of the world’s population, believe to be right been a thought crime? Since when have those beliefs, enshrined in the law of the land, and always seen as positive and good, suddenly been deemed harmful?

Since when has a well-liked member of the church’s hierarchy been told when and where he should disseminate fundamental Christian doctrine, and threatened with being hauled up to an anti-discrimination body?

Since last week, that’s when. And no, this isn’t North Korea, this is Tasmania. The unfortunate cleric is Catholic Archbishop of Hobart Julian Porteous, who has raised the ire of Australian Marriage Equality director Rodney Croome, a native of that island.

It is no mystery that the archbishop — and every other bishop of the Catholic Church up to Pope Francis himself — is, and always will be, opposed to gay marriage.

The church holds that marital love can be expressed only through the natural biological sexual union of man and woman, the only relationship that can, naturally, of itself, produce children.

Until about five minutes ago, this was the uncontroversial, biologically based universal about marriage and sex within marriage.

Christians, Jews, Muslims and most others the world over share this view. However, homosexual campaigners want to remove the natural biological centre of conjugality and replace it with the ephemera of romantic love, with its heart-shaped symbolism, something to which the young are notoriously susceptible.

So, to make the church’s teaching on this matter clear to parents, and by extension their children, all the bishops have sent to Catholic schools a booklet enunciating Christian teaching, Don’t Mess with Marriage.

They do this with the understanding that parents who send their children to a Catholic school accept the school’s ethos and teaching on the sacraments, including marriage.

But according to Croome, Porteous is guilty of what amounts to a type of child abuse and hate crime: “The Catholic Church has every right to express its views from the pulpit but it is completely inappropriate to enlist young people as the couriers of its prejudice.

“The booklet says to gay students in Catholic schools that their sexuality is wrong and that their aspiration to marry is a danger to marriage, religion and society … any teacher who exposes vulnerable children to such damaging messages not only violates their duty of care but is a danger to students.”

He claims: “This booklet denigrates and demeans same-sex relationships and will do immense harm to gay students and students being raised by same-sex couples.”

Aside from the absurdity of Croome laying down the law about where and how the church is allowed to disseminate its teaching, the booklet does not vilify. But Croome ignores this.

The booklet states clearly that “every man, woman and child has great dignity and worth which can never be taken away. This includes those who experience same-sex attraction. They must be treated with respect, sensitivity, and love.”

Consequently, few complaints have been received. However, at least one complainant has written to the archbishop to say they will be sending a formal complaint to the Tasmanian Anti-Discrimination Commissioner on the grounds of inciting hatred.

Anthony Cleary, the religious co-ordinator of the Sydney archdiocese, which has sent out 100,000 booklets, has received only about a dozen complaints, and he received three times that number of letters from parents who wrote with congratulations.

Cleary says many parents are relieved the church is taking a clear stand on this issue. Parents know “all social moral and ethical issues are presented in Catholic schools from an unapologetic Catholic perspective. In fact, the booklet hardly mentions homosexuality … As for Croome saying Catholics should be presenting both sides of the argument, what disingenuous nonsense.”

This is more than just another political argument. It goes to the moral heart of the natural family and its position in society.

However, with the topsy-turvy logic of New Think, Croome is saying the classic Judeo-Christian view on this matter, which is contained in the booklet and enshrined in the law, is simply prejudiced and children should not be taught these things. So what will happen if same-sex marriage becomes legal? Will Croome demand schools cease to teach Catholic precepts?

Croome needs to be reminded that in a free country people of all religions have the right to enunciate their views in public. By attempting to intimidate the Cath­olic Church into silence, AME is showing its true colours.

Suppressing freedom of religion and, with it, freedom of thought is the endgame of the marriage equality putsch. There are hundreds of examples of this all over the world: people involved in religious education, religiously based adoption agencies and religious ministry have been sacked, fined and had their views and work suppressed by anti-discrimination laws. There are too many cases to list here.

Porteous is facing this scenario now and the law doesn’t yet allow same-sex marriage. So if it does, what restrictions are going to be on religious schools in future about what they can and cannot teach?

Original article here

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About steveblizard

Steve Blizard commenced his financial planning career in 1988 from a background of life insurance broking, a field in which he still works. He is a member of the Financial Planning Association and the Responsible Investment Association. His experience ranges from administration of Superannuation to advice regarding insurance, retirement, remuneration and investment planning. Steve is an accredited Remuneration Consultant, specialising in salary packaging. He is a columnist for the Swan Magazine and the WA Business News

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2 thoughts on “The same-sex marriage debate and the right to religious belief

  1. The greatest concern for all Australians should be whether our politicians can see beyond their lust for the corridors of power & the nice little retirement package they pick up after just a couple of terms. Will they be able to set aside their personal good for the welfare of our nation? I am fearful of the Shortens ofthe political world who have a convincing track record of their me-first mentality.

    Posted by John Burgess | July 11, 2015, 11:46 am
  2. Regardless what your personal views might be as to homosexual marriages we must never undermine the constitutional rights of another person.
    HANSARD 17-3-1898 Constitution Convention Debates (Official Record of the Debates of the National Australasian Convention)
    QUOTE Mr. DEAKIN.-
    What a charter of liberty is embraced within this Bill-of political liberty and religious liberty-the liberty and the means to achieve all to which men in these days can reasonably aspire. A charter of liberty is enshrined in this Constitution, which is also a charter of peace-of peace, order, and good government for the whole of the peoples whom it will embrace and unite.
    END QUOTE

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation, which would abrogate them. Miranda v. Arizona 384 US 436, 125:

    The claim and exercise of Constitutional Rights cannot be converted into a crime. Miller v. Kansas 230 F 2nd 486, 489:

    For a crime to exist, there must be an injured party (Corpus Delicti) There can be no sanction or penalty imposed on one because of this Constitutional right. Sherer v. Cullen 481 F. 945:

    As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I view that regardless if it is Catholic Archbishop of Hobart, Julian Porteous or anyone else we must respect his right to cast his views. In particular where this also is a political issue then we should keep in mind Monis v The Queen, Droudis v The Queen, [2013] HCA 4, 27 February 2013, S172/2012 & S179/2012

    As a CONSTITUTIONALIST I hold the view that the word “marriage” can only be amended as to a successful referendum because the word must be understood as to what it stood for at the time the constitution was enacted.
    “:.. The starting point for a principled interpretation of the Constitution is the search for the intention of its makers” Gaudron J (Wakim, HCA27\99)

    “… But … in the interpretation of the Constitution the connotation or connotations of its words should remain constant. We are not to give words a meaning different from any meaning which they could have borne in 1900. Law is to be accommodated to changing facts. It is not to be changed as language changes. ”
    Windeyer J (Ex parte Professional Engineers’ Association)

    As it is a political issue it must be clear that anyone, including religious leaders, are well entitled to cast their views.
    I do not practice any religion but accept that they are entitled to their views as much as I am to mine and the same regarding their constitutional rights.
    I cannot accept that a state Anti-Discrimination Board can undermine or otherwise interfere with a persons constitutional rights. The moment we allow such persons to disregard the constitution as if it is worthless we end up in dictatorship as then others will do likewise.
    And, if it is acceptable to indoctrinate people with homosexuality issues then likewise it should be with heterosexuality’s. As such people be better careful before seeking to silence opponents as they might just create a system that they themselves could be silenced.

    Posted by G. H. Schorel-Hlavka (@INSPECTORRIKATI) | October 3, 2015, 7:58 am

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